Readers - this verse: 2 Thessalonians 2:3 "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;" has the two words that I'm looking at. here: http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_Database.asp?bnum=53&cnum=2&vnum=3 you can see the word by word breakdown of the verse and the in-text values of the word Apostasia (Departure) and Apokalupto (Revealing). Apostasia = 863 (see my important post here for info on that 863 number: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2012/clay922.htm) Apokalupto = 1129 The difference between 1129 and 863 = simple math. 1129 = 863 = 266 go here to see what word and/or verses have an in-text total of 266: http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_Database.asp?SearchBy_Gematria=266 note, recently I written about the Number Four: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2012/clay927-4.htm http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2012/clay928-1.htm http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2012/clay928-2.htm In the list of the words/verses that have a 266 value word in them note first, second and third words and their context verses. 1) Genesis 2:14 "And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the FOURTH river is Euphrates." 2) Genesis 23:2 "And Sarah died in Kirjatharba; the same is Hebron in the land of Canaan: and Abraham came to mourn for Sarah, and to weep for her." note the name that city of Hebron was originally known as: KIRJATHARBA, The City of Arba. Do you know who Arba was? Joshua 15:13 "And unto Caleb the son of Jephunneh he (Joshua) gave a part among the children of Judah, according to the commandment of the LORD to Joshua, even the city of Arba the father of Anak, which city is Hebron." Arba was a Giant, reputed to be the greatest. He was the father of Anak, the progenitor of the Anakim, a race of giants. Numbers 13 & Deut 9. Arba's name means FOURTH! 3) Genesis 30:38 "And he (Jacob) set the rods which he had pilled before the flocks in the gutters in the watering troughs when the flocks came to drink, that they should conceive when they came to drink." If you have read my post on the 863 number above, then you know about Genesis chapter 30. Here the reader is AGAIN IN THIS CHAPTER. Jacob preps and then removes certain kinds of flock as his hire from Laban. Thus, Jacob "spoils" the Syrian. ***** in addition: Jesus comes waling on the water towards the struggling disciples in the boat when? Matthew 14:25 "And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea." I personally feel this is a type of Jesus Descending (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17). Jesus calls Peter out of the boat, and Peter also walks o water. This may be a type of the Catching away. ****** Summing it up: The current stream that the Lord seems to be pointing to is the Number Four. This is an old number of study for me that goes way back many years but was dropped to deal with other numbers etc. I know Bob Ware has also done a bunch of work on Four over the years. Four seems to be tied to the way out, or the coming Departure. Four is tied to a mighty father of Giants, Arba. Four is tied to the Apostle John and to Eagles. Fourth is tied to Last Things: the last gospel, the last Living Creature (Eagle) in Revelation 4, the last Horse & Rider in Revelation 5, the last River Euphrates. God Himself is surround by an Emerald Rainbow - Emerald being the fourth stone in both the Breastpiece of the High Priest and the Foundation stones of the New Jerusalem (the only stone that holds the same position between the two). Four, by association, was found between the Departure and the Revealing (of the son of perdition). The Light is separated from the Darkness on Day Four in Genesis 1. total gematria value for that verse = 1776. I speculate that many things will happen at the time of the Resurrection of the Dead (in Christ) and the Catching Away of the living (in Christ). Satan is cast down, the Bride is taken, Damascus is destroyed, out of that rubble the AC comes and is revealed (a Syrian), the Restrainer is removed, and consequently the West as a power block is neutralized by some means, possibly catastrophic natural disaster plus military action from enemy forces. In addition, due to the appearance of Arba in the mix, the Giants of Old may return, which prophecy teachers of note have written about. these are my theoretical opinions based on my interpretation of numbers and their contexts in God's Word - plus dream or two. ; > Jesus is Lord.