Luis Vega (27 Oct 2024)
"WILLIAM PAWELEC INTERVIEW - The 4 Horesmen"


 
WILLIAM PAWELEC INTERVIEW
THE 4 HORSEMEN
Beyond Black Programs

by Luis B. Vega
vegapost@hotmail.com
www.PostScripts.org

The purpose of this study is to show how the Luciferian Agenda to Control all of Humanity is Alive and Well. The following are Excerpts of the Interview of the former U.S. Air Force Computer Operations and Programming Specialist, William Pawelec. He worked in the Top Secret and ‘Dark’ Projects of the various U.S. Spy and Research Agencies. He helped set-up many of their Security Firewalls and Control Systems. He had access to many of the now Declassified Black-Ops Research Facilities like Area 51 in Nevada. It was during this Time that he learned about the Tonopah Base.

That is where the F-117 Plane was developed and tested. That Secret Base is more remote and inaccessible than Area 51, according to Pawelec, for example. From an Aerial View, the Runways are designed as a Square and Compass Motif. Back in 2001, he gave a sit-down Interview with Ufologist, Dr. Steven Greer. He is the Founder of the Project Disclosure, where his Work and Research has been an on-going Quest to have the U.S. Government came ‘Clean’ about its involvement and acquisition of Alien Technology. Why? In Pawelec’s Assessment, the motivation and purpose of such Agendas is to Control Humanity with such Technology

This Interview done by Dr. Greer was not released until the Death of Pawelec in 2007. The Interview was then released on Greer’s YouTube Channel in 2010. However, the Channel was later Censored and Terminated. The Interview with Pawelec, as a Credible Insider exposes how the Intelligence World operates and controls the World Government. What many deemed to be a ‘Conspiracy Theory’ has turned-out to be Conspiracy Fact after all. In the Interview, Pawelec discusses the RFID Chip that were manufactured in the Billions and according to his knowledge, implanted into People.

In many cases, such Implants were placed in People, unawares or without Informed Consent, etc. In his Experiences with such Entities and People, Pawelec became convinced that such Beyond Black Operations only served to propagate the Agendas of what he and others called the 4 Horsemen. And in that case, the Endeavor of such a Cabal takes on a Biblical and even Prophetic Disposition. Consider what the 4 Horsemen bring to Fruition upon an unsuspecting World.

1-White Horseman: False Salvation, Messiah, Deception.
2-Red Horseman: World War, Death.
3-Black Horseman: Famine and Starvation.
4-Green Horseman: Mass Death and Destruction.
 
Beyond Black
Such Technology is being used, either through Reverse Engineering or Direct Disclosure from the Fallen Angels ‘posing’ as ‘Ancient Creator Aliens’ to advance the Globalist Agenda and to further what Pawelec surmised are Agendas and Projects that go ‘Beyond Black’. Why? In Pawelec’s Assessment, the motivation and purpose of such Agendas is to Control Humanity with such Technology. However, such People like Dr. Greer do not hold to the Biblical Narrative that such ‘Alien’ Entities are Malevolent and are in fact the Fallen Angels in league with Lucifer, their Leader.

And that many Humans, since Adam and Eve, have rather believed Lucifer’s Deception and quest to overthrow YHVH and His Christ, Jesus. Such Technology acquired and given to only the Select Few that are bestowed with Lucifer’s Temporal Power are using it to further his Agenda. And that is? It is being used, either through Reverse Engineering to advance the Globalist Agenda and to further what Pawelec surmised are Agendas and Projects that go ‘Beyond Black’. Why? In Pawelec’s Assessment, the motivation and purpose of such Agendas is to Control Humanity with such Technology
 
What one will provide are some of the Highlights from the Interview, as a Transcript that demonstrates how the Powers-That-Be, the Black Hand are who really run and control the World Government. This is the Cabal or what Jesus called, the Synagogue of Satan. Pawelec even hinted at how during the RFID Research and Manufacturing of it, the aim of the People representing the Federal Government in those Meetings wanted the Technology to Surveil, Monitor and Control People with. In Pawelec’s Estimations, it is how the Mark of the Beast from the Bible aligns with such Technology and Purpose.
 
These 4 Attributes of what will be unleashed after the Rapture Event are what exactly will occur in that last 7-Year Sabbath Cycle that the Resurrected Jesus revealed to the last remaining Apostle alive, John on the Island of Patmos. Pawelec also came to call all those working in the District of Columbia as the ‘Beltway Bandits’. How so? Pawelec and his Team of Engineers were the Pioneers in developing the RFID, Radio Frequency Chip Implant. But realize that what has been further developed now pales in comparison. Consider how the Graphene Oxide in the COVID Kill Shots Self-Replicate and Self-Assemble inside the Blood of those injected with such Poison.

Pawelec stated that as they came to realize how such Beyond Black Operations are being used to further the Agenda of those that really rule the World, attempts to Whistle-Blow the Operations were met with Assassination Hits of some of his Colleagues. Pawelec describes in the Interview how he was part of Very Top-Secret Meetings in Secured Meeting Rooms with Top Brass Military General. The Odd Aspect was how unannounced and uninvited Personal appeared and joined the Meeting.  This is how he describes such Men. The Private Jet rolled all the way to the Building where the Meeting was scheduled as the Escort Jets departed.

‘A very Imposing Man stepped-out of the Jet and entered the Room. He was relatively tall and wore a very Expensive European Suit. His Shoes and Briefcase were equally luxurious. There was an Aide or Bodyguard by his side. His demeanor was very Aristocratic and he spoke with a High German Accent’.

An Ancient War
It is believed this Person was Baron Jesco von Puttkamer. He was 1 of the Nazi Germans who came to the United States with Werner von Braun during Operation Paper-Clip. At this Point in Time, Pawelec wanted to ‘Get to the Bottom’ of why former Nazi Germans were involved in Beyond Black-Ops. He realized that there was a Hidden Alien Agenda that involved a Cooperation with such Entities that did not benefit Humanity but was and is being used against it.

In further Writing, it has been noted that Pawelec had interactions and was influenced by the Work and Research of the Late Jim Marrs. Marrs did not hold back on exposing what he surmised was the Nazi and the Bavarian Illuminati Luciferian Connections to the UFO Phenomena. He, like other Bible Researchers connected such Beyond Black Operations as how Lucifer and his Fallen Angels presently still are engaged in controlling and using Fallen Humanity to push Lucifer’s Agenda. Since the Creation of Humanity in the Garden of Eden, Lucifer has used Men and Women as Pawns.

Pawelec became convinced that there is a Parallel Battle for Earth that has been going on, as well as the one in Space even before Genesis. Pawelec wanted to ‘Go Public’ but was hesitant. It is surmised by his Close Friends and Family that he was given Cancer as a way of silencing him and broadcasting a Warning to other potential Whistle-Blowers. The following are Portions of the Interview that shed some Insights into what Pawelec knew and was willing to divulge about how the Beyond Black Agendas work and were about. Emphasis added.
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The Cold War was going to wind down, as we know it back then. It has just mutated into a ‘New Type’ of War. …These People had Agendas. They are unlike any Agendas that you would ever have run into. …Our Government has a History of keeping Secrets. There is a lot of Programs that were successfully kept ‘Quiet’ for Decades, if not close to half a Century. And during the last 10 Years, we have seen a lot of Announcements of Programs that were kept Very Secret by our Government.

For example, there is the Syphilis Study. And I believe it was Alabama, back in the 30s. Nobody knew what really went on until, I think, was the late 80s, early 90s, when that Program is released. …And the Fact that the Japanese had a Biological Warfare Detachments working in Mongolia who we agreed not to punish, even though they killed 1000s of our own Soldiers there who were POWs, simply so we could get our hands on the Records the Results of their Testing. That Program was not released and I believe the Full Story of that did not come out till the 90s, early 90s.

So, that is close to a 50-Year Period where they kept that large Project Secret and we were able to continue the Research at Fort Detrick and other places on a Biological Experimentation on our own People. So, our Government has the ability to keep Secrets, in fooling the People from truly believing in what they are working on. …What concerns me is when the Projects go ‘Beyond Black’ and that we have failure with People with Ulterior Motives. …One thought that the United States, they were looking to ‘Protect’ the Free World, but if you get into the Situation more and more, it becomes evident that they have Agendas that are Independent of the goals of the United States. And that the Attitudes seem to be one of the Control and Power.

…I guess, you could call that almost the ‘2nd Oldest Profession in the World’. …We all can just follow the Web Tracks these Days, as to where the Implications are for that.
And the needs for Continuing Control are getting more severe. And the use of these Mechanisms are becoming ever more blatant. My Concerns are for the Freedom of our Country and of the Free World. It sounds rather simplistic, but we have to have a Philosophy upon which we base our Lives. And my Philosophy is that the Republican Form of Government, if we can get back to it, in some way, shape or form, is the strongest Form of Government ever developed by men.
 
By basically allowing one Event to occur and that is that we allow everybody to become a Sovereign Individual. It has been proven in the last 200 some Years, particularly from the Technological Development we have experienced since the Founding of this Country. The True Great Extent has been focused 1st in the United States. That is the most Motivating Type of Mechanism we can possibly have for our Species to advance. And yet, there seemed to be Countervailing Forces trying to stop it. And if we do not find Waste and Neutralize these Negative Forces, we are going to find our Lifestyles our Concepts of Life as a Species nullified.
 
…As one having been into a Degree and looking at the Outside and seeing, it is a Total Manipulative Process with the Media. They have their own Agenda. It is very Liberal. We know which way they, [the People] would generally vote, if you did a Gallup Poll on the Media. We have an Alternate Media that is much closer to the Truth, particularly on the Web these Days. But it is purposely ignored. Anything of a Serious Nature is laughed at, tattered or neutralized as much as possible. Our Government realizes what was going on.
 
They got whoever. It has got total ability to penetrate anytime, anywhere…and locate what is going on instantly. Research since the early 80s on my own and with some Friends, indicates that we have at least 4 Power Groups in the World. They have Wealth beyond all Imagination. They have Advanced Technologies. They have taken over various Programs, particularly Black programs within our Government. And probably even the Russian Government and the Chinese. Their Politics to them, as we know it, is not the same. And they have Agendas totally unlike what our Governments …we perceive our Government's Agendas really are.

And that they are able to track unbelievably what is going on around …and who these People are. We and my Friends and I have given them Names but they have no Relevance to what they call themselves.
We just simply call them the ‘4 Horsemen’. And that these Horsemen worked together. And at Times …they work against each other. At Times there is an Ongoing Battle between them, at a Low-Level to see who is going to be Top-Dog in the World. The one commonality they all have, appears to be an Absolute Desire for Control of Everything in Everyone.
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Source

WILLIAM PAWELEC INTERVIEW
Dr. Steven Greer of the Disclosure Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OiZR... (YouTube Channel Deleted)

LISTEN ON INTERNET ARCHIVE
https://archive.org/details/The_Disclosure_Project_-_William_Pawelec_Testimony 

IS PART OF OUR DPIA
Disclosure Project Intelligence Archive.
https://www.dpiarchive.com/#/login?redirect=%2F

Research

TONOPAH AIR FORCE BASE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonopah_Air_Force_Base

JESCO VON PUTTKAMER
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesco_von_Puttkamer
 
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