Marilyn Agee (14 Oct 2013)
"GM (11 Oct 2013) "Marilyn re GM re Earnest""


Hi:

> To clarify, I consider that Jesus’ conception was about Sept. 20, 3 B.C. > To me, this is how he came on Rosh Hashanah.  Looking at Stellarium, or > the like, in Virgo I believe you will find it interesting; Mars at the > head of Virgo, Mercury at the shoulders and the Sun at Spica with the > moon conjuncting.  More writing is necessary to do this justice.  For > now, consider Luke stating that Gabriel came to Mary in the sixth month. > If the sixth month is indeed Elul, then this may have happened very > shortly before Rosh Hashanah officially began.  Jesus birth would follow > in June, which was Tamuz that year.  I really should write this up more > extensively.

I think Jesus was conceived on Kislev 24 and was born on Tishri 1, the following Feast of Trumpets in BC 5. The sign of Rev 12 was in the sky on Sept. 4, 5 BC.

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE MAY BE ON KISLEV 24 OR 25, NOV. 27 OR 28, 2013

Hag 2:18,19 says, "Consider (sum labab, take it to heart) now from (min, from or after) this day and UPWARD (maal, on high, from alah, to ascend), from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month (i.e., Kislev 24), even from the day that the foundation (i.e., there is no other foundation but Jesus, 1 Co 3:11) of the LORD'S temple (i.e., we are the temple of the Holy Spirit) was laid (yasad, founded), consider it (i.e., take it to heart). 19 Is the seed (i.e., Jesus, Gen. 3:15) yet in the barn? (a saying meaning is she pregnant?) yea (YES, i.e., Jesus was conceived on Kislev 24), as yet the vine (Jesus), and the fig tree (Israel), and the pomegranate (the upright), and the olive tree (Israel with Gentile believers grafted in), hath not brought forth (NASA, LIFTED UP, i.e., been Raptured): from (min, from or after) this day (i.e.,  from or after Kislev 24) will I bless you."

Kislev 25 is Hanukkah. This is when oil for one day lasted 8 days.

THE PARABLE OF THE TEN VIRGINS

Mat 25:1-10 says, "Then (i.e., on Kislev 25?) shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. 2  And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 3  They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: 4  But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. 5  While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. 6  And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom (i.e., Christ) cometh; go ye out to meet him. 7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. 8  And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone (lit., going) out. 9  But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. 10  And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut."

Mt 24:50,51 says, "The lord of that servant (i.e., the foolish one) shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51  And shall cut him asunder (i.e., cut him off), and appoint him his portion (i.e., the Great Tribulation) with the hypocrites (pretenders): there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

The next day is Kislev 25, Hanukkah, when the oil for one day began to last eight days (Kislev 25- Teveth 2), the length of time for making new oil. Hanukkah lasts 8 days. The foolish virgins had to wait 8 days to buy new oil. In the meantime the wise virgins that were ready went with the bridegroom, who is Christ.

Luk 12:45,46 says, "But and if that servant (the unwise one) say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken;  46  The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder (i.e., cut him off), and will appoint him his portion  (i.e., of the Great Tribulation) with the unbelievers."

If Jesus was conceived on Kislev 24, he could have been born on the following Tishri 1, the Feast of Trumpets, Sept. 4, 5 BC.

KISLEV 25, THE FIRST DAY OF HANUKKAH MAY BE THE DATE OF THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE

For Hanukkah to fall on our Thanksgiving is rare. The last time it happened was in 1888. It won't happen again for 79,043 years. Therefore, something special, the First-Trump Rapture, may take place on the first day of Hanukkah this year. That will also be the day comet ISON is at perihelion, it's closest to the Sun, and LORD of hosts is called the Sun of Righteousness in Mal 4:1,2.

If the Rapture happens on Hanukkah, I will still be 84. My birthday is in the early part of December. That matters to me. My dad and husband Ed both died when 87. My mom died at 84.

On the morning after her funeral, I awoke and heard her voice saying, "Marilyn, there's no way I'm 84 years old." Of course, she was 33, as my husband was when he visited me in his celestial body. I needed to know that she was 84 for some reason. She was 84 when she went to Heaven, and I hope I am 84 when I go. The clues are adding up.

Agape,
Marilyn Agee
mjagee@verizon.net
prophecycorner.theforeverfamily.com
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GM (11 Oct 2013) "Marilyn re GM re Earnest"

Marilyn,

Thanks for your input and correction.  Silly errors I miss are a way God keeps me humble.  I actually try to find those things but am often distracted by the process of turning thoughts into letters, silly things.  J

I’ll try to reference your input in order:

Regarding the creation calendar guy, I agree that he is not a reliable source.  I was thinking Torah calendar, with which he seems to have some relationship.

Regarding calendars, my thought is that we have ample evidence to suggest that God (G_d for the Hebrews) is using the current Hillel to speak to the Hebrew nation today.

My only purpose was to simply note a concept that was reflecting an even 2000 years.

I recently bumped into writings by this individual and found his teachings to sound well founded, but based on non-biblical, non-Hebraic teachings. Also, he freely launches into criticisms of historical work without backing up his claims about them.

You copied this below:

Ø  Only time land is returned to the previous owner is on a "Jubilee".The> corrected year was 1950 when Jerusalem was returned. Those who > understand time his return will also be on a Jubilee year. This is how a > Holy a perfect God works.”

Ø  I did not write this, it is one of Earnest’s comments.  In fact, it is a comment that I struggled with and started to hurt my brain until I read through the post a couple of times.

Regarding Jesus' birth, I know you have done a very commendable study and have offered more here than I have previously seen.  Applying the date of birth to events later in life is indeed interesting.  That is part of the "full speed ahead" study I was lead through this summer, albeit with a different starting point.

I need a bit more time to fully take in your study of these times.  I do agree that 9/23/2015 should be a big day and likely the announcement of the jubilee.

You are correct regarding my intention to reference 13 A.D. rather than 2013.  Thank you for understanding.  As I was writing that off the top of my head, very late, I actually miss-stated my own year.  I subtracted the one transitional BC AD year from 2 instead of 3 BC.

To clarify, I consider that Jesus’ conception was about Sept. 20, 3 B.C.  To me, this is how he came on Rosh Hashanah.  Looking at Stellarium, or the like, in Virgo I believe you will find it interesting; Mars at the head of Virgo, Mercury at the shoulders and the Sun at Spica with the moon conjuncting.  More writing is necessary to do this justice.  For now, consider Luke stating that Gabriel came to Mary in the sixth month.  If the sixth month is indeed Elul, then this may have happened very shortly before Rosh Hashanah officially began.  Jesus birth would follow in June, which was Tamuz that year.  I really should write this up more extensively.

I appreciate your study, and thanks for helping me clarify my comments.

GM