John (19 Nov 2023)
"Harvest then wrath"


Hi John and Doves,

I thought we would have been gone by now, so I am scratching my head about what is a possible timeline.
It seems to me that the likely Date when Jesus started his ministry was 26AD and so the likely
End of the 2000 years and 6000 years is 2026AD.

So, if that is the case, then there is no longer any time for a 7 year or 3.5 year period, so what does that
leave us with?

Maybe the 1260 days has been and gone.
Maybe like the writers in the 1800s, the 1260 is actually years and was between 688 and 1948 or similar.
Maybe the 42 months was between 1939 and 1945
Another writer put the 42 months as ISIS back before Covid.

So, if something like that is the case, then what is left?

It seems to me that what is left is
1. The Jewish people saying "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord" (or a remnant at least)
2. Harvest and
3. Wrath.

So these could all squeeze into that last year between 2025 and 2026 and so maybe we have a few years left.

Lets pull out some verses around these things.


O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you were not willing!  Behold, your house is forsaken. And I tell you, you will not see me until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!’”
Luke 13:34‭-‬35 ESV

Zechariah 4
2 branches of the Olive tree


There are also two olive trees beside it, one on the right of the bowl and the other on its left.”
Zechariah 4:3 HCSB


Daniel 12
11"From the time that the daily sacrifice
is abolished and the abomination that
causes desolation is set up, there will be
1,290 days.
12Blessed is the one who waits for and
reaches the end of the 1,335 days.


688 + 1335 = 2023
or 691 + 1335 = 2026
or 690 + 1335 = 2025

ROMANS 8
16The Spirit himself testifies with our
spirit that we are God's children.
17Now if we are children, then we are
heirs--heirs of God and co-heirs with
Christ, if indeed we share in his
sufferings in order that we may also
share in his glory.

ROM 9
24even us, whom he also called, not only
from the Jews but also from the
Gentiles?

27Isaiah cries out concerning Israel:
"Though the number of the Israelites be
like the sand by the sea, only the
remnant will be saved.
28For the Lord will carry out his sentence
on earth with speed and finality."

Rom 10
10Brothers, my heart's desire and
prayer to God for the Israelites is that
they may be saved.
2For I can testify about them that they
are zealous for God, but their zeal is not
based on knowledge.

9That if you confess with your mouth,
"Jesus is Lord," and believe in your
heart that God raised him from the dead,
you will be saved.

12For there is no difference between Jew
and Gentile--the same Lord is Lord of all
and richly blesses all who call on him,
13for, "Everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved."

19Again I ask: Did Israel not understand?
First, Moses says, "I will make you
envious by those who are not a nation; I
will make you angry by a nation that has
no understanding."

21But concerning Israel he says, "All day
long I have held out my hands to a
disobedient and obstinate people."

ROM 11
ask then: Did God reject his
people? By no means! I am an Israelite
myself, a descendant of Abraham, from
the tribe of Benjamin

5So too, at the present time there is a
remnant chosen by grace.

7What then? What Israel sought so
earnestly it did not obtain, but the elect
did. The others were hardened,
8as it is written: "God gave them a spirit
of stupor, eyes so that they could not
see and ears so that they could not hear,
to this very day."

11Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to
fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather,
because of their transgression, salvation
has come to the Gentiles to make Israel
envious.
12But if their transgression means riches
for the world, and their loss means
riches for the Gentiles, how much
greater riches will their fullness bring!

15For if their rejection is the
reconciliation of the world, what will their
acceptance be but life from the dead?

23And if they do not persist in unbelief,
they will be grafted in, for God is able to
graft them in again

25I do not want you to be ignorant of this
mystery, brothers, so that you may not
be conceited: Israel has experienced a
hardening in part until the full number of
the Gentiles has come in.
26And so all Israel will be saved, as it is
written: "The deliverer will come from
Zion; he will turn godlessness away
from Jacob.

2 peter
2
9if this is so, then the Lord knows how to
rescue godly men from trials and to hold
the unrighteous for the day of judgment,
while continuing their punishment.


3
8But do not forget this one thing, dear
friends: With the Lord a day is like a
thousand years, and a thousand years
are like a day.
9The Lord is not slow in keeping his
promise, as some understand slowness.
He is patient with you, not wanting
anyone to perish, but everyone to come
to repentance.


#
Maybe also the DANIEL 7 years has already had 6 years run.... Jesus crucified in the middle, and then Stephen stoned and Paul
becomes an apostle...

#
REV 1

7Look, he is coming with the clouds, and
every eye will see him, even those who
pierced him; and all the peoples of the
earth will mourn because of him. So
shall it be! Amen.

12I turned around to see the voice that
was speaking to me. And when I turned
I saw seven golden lampstands,

(((Lampstands - like to Zech 4 - two branches???

Maybe Laodicea the last church is the jewish people coming back into the grafted branch

Many of Laodicea's inhabitants were Jews from this time,
With its large Jewish community,[26] Laodicea very early became a seat of Christianity and a bishopric. T

Laodicea

19Those whom I love I rebuke and
discipline. So be earnest, and repent.
20Here I am! I stand at the door and
knock. If anyone hears my voice and
opens the door, I will come in and eat
with him, and he with me.

REV 5
9And they sang a new song: "You are
worthy to take the scroll and to open its
seals, because you were slain, and with
your blood you purchased men for God
from every tribe and language and
people and nation.
10You have made them to be a kingdom
and priests to serve our God, and they
will reign on the earth."

REV 6 SEVEN SEALS
(((Maybe - over time... last 2000 years
(((White horse holy spirt??

((((6th seal - earthquake???

14The sky receded like a scroll
(((Rapture???

16They called to the mountains and the
rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the
face of him who sits on the throne and
from the wrath of the Lamb!

REV 7
4Then I heard the number of those who
were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes
of Israel.

9After this I looked and there before me
was a great multitude that no one could
count, from every nation, tribe, people

1. Israel calling out.
2. Harvest
3. Wrath.

Then maybe the 7 trumpets are the wrath after the harvest.

REV 9
20The rest of mankind that were not
killed by these plagues still did not
repent of the work of their hands; they
did not stop worshiping demons, and
idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone and
wood--idols that cannot see or hear or
walk.

(((Wrath to give people last chance to repent and they didnt)))

(((MAYBE THIS IS THE END - END OF THE STORTY TO END CHAPTER 10

REV 11
2But exclude the outer court; do not
measure it, because it has been given to
the Gentiles. They will trample on the
holy city for 42 months.
3And I will give power to my two
witnesses, and they will prophesy for
1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth."
4These are the two olive trees and the
two lampstands that stand before the
Lord of the earth.

(((MAYBE THIS IS THE 1260 YEARS from 688 to 1948
(((Both Jewish people and christians two olive trees.

REV 11
18The nations were angry; and your
wrath has come. The time has come for
judging the dead, and for rewarding your
servants the prophets and your saints
and those who reverence your name,
both small and great-- and for
destroying those who destroy the earth."

(((So  there is two witnesses go up in a cloud and THEN wrath has come

(((ANOTHER "FINISH"....

REV 12
1260 DAYS - maybe 1260 years???


REV 13
BEAST - maybe this is the 1260 years up to 1948?

4Men worshiped the dragon because he
had given authority to the beast, and
they also worshiped the beast and
asked, "Who is like the beast? Who can
make war against him?"
5The beast was given a mouth to utter
proud words and blasphemies and to
exercise his authority for forty-two
months.


REV 14

BEAST.. then..

15Then another angel came out of the
temple and called in a loud voice to him
who was sitting on the cloud, "Take your
sickle and reap, because the time to
reap has come, for the harvest of the
earth is ripe."
16So he who was seated on the cloud
swung his sickle over the earth, and the
earth was harvested.

((HARVEST then wrath

18Still another angel, who had charge of
the fire, came from the altar and called
in a loud voice to him who had the sharp
sickle, "Take your sharp sickle and
gather the clusters of grapes from the
earth's vine, because its grapes are
ripe."
19The angel swung his sickle on the
earth, gathered its grapes and threw
them into the great winepress of God's
wrath.

REV 15
seven last plagues ((Gods wrath))))


REV 16
seven last plagues ((Gods wrath))))

18Then there came flashes of lightning,
rumblings, peals of thunder and a
severe earthquake. No earthquake like it
has ever occurred since man has been
on earth, so tremendous was the quake.

REV 17
8The beast, which you saw, once was,
now is not, and will come up out of the
Abyss and go to his destruction.
(((Once was.... an old religion that comes back?

REV 19
the roar of a great multitude in
heaven shouting: "Hallelujah! Salvation
and glory and power belong to our God,

((Wedding after harvest, then wrath

4The twenty-four elders and the four
living creatures fell down and worshiped
God, who was seated on the throne.
And they cried: "Amen, Hallelujah!"

9Then the angel said to me, "Write:
'Blessed are those who are invited to the
wedding supper of the Lamb!' " And he
added, "These are the true words of
God."

((WRATH
13He is dressed in a robe dipped in
blood, and his name is the Word of God.
14The armies of heaven were following
him, riding on white horses and dressed
in fine linen, white and clean.
15Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword
with which to strike down the nations.
"He will rule them with an iron scepter."
He treads the winepress of the fury of
the wrath of God Almighty.

REV 20
2He seized the dragon, that ancient
serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and
bound him for a thousand years.
3He threw him into the Abyss, and
locked and sealed it over him, to keep
him from deceiving the nations anymore
until the thousand years were ended.
After that, he must be set free for a short
time.
4I saw thrones on which were seated
those who had been given authority to
judge. And I saw the souls of those who
had been beheaded because of their
testimony for Jesus and because of the
word of God. They had not worshiped
the beast or his image

will be priests of God and of Christ and
will reign with him for a thousand years.

(((((( So there is "rescue, then wrath"
((((BUT THE WRATH IS NEVER 42 months, it is a seperate thing....
(((WRATH OF GOD IS SEPERATE to "BEAST REIGN"

WhAT IS GODS FOCUS
1. TIME OF GENTILES UNTIL LAST GENTILE
2. ISREAL BELIEVERS / LUKE - JERUSALEM "BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN NAME OF LORD"
(((ABOVE ARE THE TWO OLIVE BRANCHES possibly))))