I find Barry presents good information from scripture.I especially appreciated his insight as to when the embryo of John the Baptist "leapt" (sp?) at the presence of Jesus in Mary.When Mary left quickly to go to Elizabeth, she was up in Nazareth while Elizabeth lived in the hills down in the Judea area. It was a distance and would take some time to get there (riding a donkey?). So I speculate that if Jesus was conceived in Mary on day one of Hanukkah, it is possible that Jesus in her showed up to Elizabeth about 3-4 days later. This would be about the beginning of Tevet.I am keeping in mind that the current Jewish reckoning of when Hanukkah takes place might be one to two days early compared to when the new moon might be sighted.I find it interesting that the first day of the fourth month (pre-Israel's calendar) when Adam and Eve possibly had to leave the Garden, is the same day of the year as to when Esther came into the presence of the King.https://youtu.be/QO9CcSSSL4E?si=7egYCj5-GjcalEPwGod bless you.Douglas Henney