From: Marilyn AgeeRe: Dates of Rapture and of our return to New Jerusalem after we come back with Christ at the Second AdventHi:> > perhaps the time frame around Nov 14th will be important to watch, since it's approximately 40 days prior to the winter solstice/Dec 21st time.Let's see. What are our choices?From date: Friday, Nov 11, 2011 (11, 11, 11)Plus 40 daysResulting date: Wed, Dec 21, 2011That's the FIRST DAY OF WINTER and, to me, the most likely date for the First-Trump Rapture. Ed Vallow says 11 means Redemption. That fills out the picture.John 10:22,23 says, "it was at Jerusalem THE FEAST OF DEDICATION (the 8 days of the dedication of the Temple, also called Feast of Lights and Hanukkah, start on Kislev 25, Dec 21), AND IT WAS WINTER. 23 And Jesus walked in the temple". We are the temple of the Holy Spirit. and 8 means new beginnings. Dec 21, 2011 is looking good for the Rapture.Kislev 25 is not always on Dec 21, but it is this year, 2011. It still looks like a good date for the Rapture.From 17th of Cheshvan, 5772 = Mon, 14 November 2011
Added 40 days
Resulting date: Saturday, December 24, 2011 (Christmas Eve and 4th day of Hanukkah.
This doesn't sound as good to me, but I agree that the Rapture could come on Cheshvan 17 or any time during the following 40 days. Noah's Ark was at its highest point somewhere near the end of the 40 days.
Concerning the Rapture, in Mt 24:36,37, Jesus said, "But of that DAY AND HOUR knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the DAYS (plural) of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."
In Mt 24:42, Jesus said, "Watch therefore: for ye know not what HOUR your Lord doth come."Since verse 36 says, "day and hour" and verse 42 only says, "hour", Jesus must have given us a clue to the DAY in between. It should be sometime during the 40 DAYS, Cheshvan 17 to Kislev 28, 5772.From date: Monday, November 14, 2011 (Cheshvan 17, 5772)Added 40 days
Resulting date: Saturday, December 24, 2011, Christmas Eve, Kislev 28, 5772, the 4th day of Hanukkah
Since the 40 days ends during Hanukkah, surely this Feast is important.It looks like Haggai 2:15,18,19 zeros in on Kislev 25, the first day of Hanukkah, instead of Kislev 28.Hag 2:15,18,19 says, "And now, I pray you, consider (sum lebab, take it to heart) from this day (Kislev 24) AND UPWARD (i.e., Kislev 25), from before a stone was laid upon a stone (i.e., upon Jesus, there's no other foundation, I Cor 3:11) in the temple of the LORD (we're the temple of the Holy Spirit): ...18 Consider now from this day (Kislev 24) AND UPWARD (maal, upward, overhead, very high, i.e., be Raptured on Kislev 25?), FROM (i.e., after) the four and twentieth day of the ninth month (i.e., Kislev 25), even FROM (i.e., after) the day that the foundation (i.e., Jesus) of the LORD'S temple was LAID (i.e., Jesus was conceived on Kislev 24), consider it. 19 Is the seed (Jesus, Gen 3:15) yet in the barn? (a saying meaning is she pregnant) yea (YES), as yet the vine (Jesus), and the fig tree (Israel), and the pomegranate (meaning upright), and the olive tree (Israel with the Gentiles grafted in), hath not brought forth (i.e., been born into a new world, raptured): FROM (min, after) THIS DAY (i.e., on Kislev 25) will I bless you."25th of Kislev, 5772 = Wed, 21 December 2011, which is considered the first day of winter."AND IT WAS WINTER"This year, Kislev 25 and Dec 21 fall on the same day. That doesn't happen every year. I was reading that scripture, and got a rush when I said out loud, "AND IT WAS WINTER." To me, that tied it all together.
I still think Kislev 25, the first day of the Feast of Dedication,
Dec 21, 2011 is our most likely date for the First-Trump Rapture.WHAT ABOUT THE SONG OF SOLOMON?
Song 2:10f says, "MY BELOVED (i.e., Christ, THE BRIDEGROOM) spake, and said unto me (i.e., THE MARRIED BRIDE OF CHRIST), RISE UP, MY LOVE, my fair one, and COME AWAY (i.e., GO UP TO NEW JERUSALEM). 11 For, lo, the WINTER (and probably our rapture), IS PAST (i.e., the time is THE FOLLOWING spring), the rain (i.e., the latter rain of Nisan) is over and gone (i.e., it is now Iyar); 12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle (lit., turtledove) is heard in our land (the doves are in Israel from April to October); 13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape (i.e., early June) give a good smell. ARISE, my love (i.e., the married Bride), my fair one, and COME AWAY. 14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock (i.e., in Christ), in the SECRET places (omit places, it isn't in the original) OF THE STAIRS (i.e., like Jacob's ladder, where angels go up and down), let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely. 15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for OUR vines have tender grapes. 16 MY BELOVED IS MINE, and I AM HIS: he feedeth among the lilies. 17 Until the day break, and the shadows flee away, TURN, my beloved, and be thou like a roe or a young hart upon the mountains (i.e., on Earth and New Jerusalem that will be orbiting Earth like the Moon) of Bether" (SEPARATION).That seems to be talking about the time when we return to New Jerusalem after coming down to Earth with Christ at the Second Advent on Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016.From date: Saturday (Christ is Lord of the Sabbath), April 9, 2016 (Second Advent, Nisan 1, 5776)Added 45 days (1335 - 1290, ESTIMATED TIME, Dan 12:11,12)
Resulting date: Tuesday, May 24, 2016
We are in the ballpark. The 25th of Iyar, 5776, is ASCENSION DAY, Thu, June 2, 2016. That just might be the exact day of our return trip to New Jerusalem.
That is probably why Jesus ascended on the 40th day instead of the 50th day after his resurrection. The whole Bride of Christ may ascend to New Jerusalem on ASCENSION DAY.
Rev 3:12 says, "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I WILL WRITE UPON HIM THE NAME OF MY GOD, AND THE NAME OF THE CITY OF MY GOD, WHICH IS NEW JERUSALEM, WHICH COMETH DOWN OUT OF HEAVEN FROM MY GOD: and I will write upon him MY NEW NAME" (i.e., the married name).
Rev 21:2 says, "And I John saw the holy city, NEW JERUSALEM, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a BRIDE adorned for HER HUSBAND." The Marriage of the Lamb has already taken place.
Acts 1:9 says, "And when he (Jesus) had spoken these things, while they beheld, HE WAS TAKEN UP; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men (maybe Moses and Elijah) stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. 12 THEN RETURNED THEY UNTO JERUSALEM".
It looks like we will ascend to NEW JERUSALEM THE SECOND TIME ON ASCENSION DAY.
> > Here's hoping you and Ed are doing as well as possible under all the circumstances.Ed has been in bed ever since we both got pneumonia in March 2010. He is very weak, can't sit up by himself, let alone stand up.I have permanent fibrosis in my lungs, but I passed the breathing test ok. The fibrosis doesn't bother me, but scared the Doctor. She sent me to a specialist, but there is not much you can do about it.Being in the hospital ruined us financially. We are hanging on by our fingernails, not able to pay all our bills, and I have to pay the first installment of Property Taxes ($1156.16) by Dec 10 or lose my Reverse Mortgage on the house.One very nice, but totally unexpected thing, happened before Ed got pneumonia. He prayed to be cured of Diabetes, then immediately saw a TV commercial for Patty McPeak's Rice-N-Shine (now called 24/7), tried it, and it worked. He no longer has to take any medicine for Diabetes.When he told the Doctor he was taking Rice-N-Shine (mainly brown rice bran) to cure himself of Diabetes, the Doctor said, "I'm sorry it doesn't work that way." However, maybe 9 months later, the smiling Doctor handed him his perfect lab results and said, "Congratulations, you're cured." He was cured of one thing and flattened by another soon after. We are going to be so happy to be young again. Ed is 87. I'll be 83 in December.Hope we get out of here Dec 21, the first day of the Feast of Dedication, the Feast of Lights. It sure ties in with the wise virgins having extra oil in their lamps. The flagon of oil that was supposed to be enough for one day was miraculously replenished for 8 days. The number 8 means new beginning. It will be a new beginning for us.