Amy VanGerpen (5 May 2012)
"RE: Fullness of the Gentiles"

 
Something that troubles me about the view that the "fullness of the Gentiles" is finished in the rapture, is that the blindness of Israel is not fully taken away until the very end of the Tribulation:
 
Romans 11:25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; 27 For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins.”
 
Add to that, many Gentiles will get saved in the Tribulation:
 
Matthew 25:31 “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’ 37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’
 
Are these not part of the "fullness of the Gentiles"?  I just don't see how this only describes the Church.
 
Maranatha!
Amy Van Gerpen
 
 
Mike W (2 May 2012)
"fullness of gentiles"

To who will listen
I have seen many post on how many days until Jesus raptures his church. Everyone seems to want to link it to feast days and signs in astrolgy. There is only 1 thing holding back the rapture.
Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
 
The only thing holding back the rapture is for the last person to accept Jesus as his/hers savior. It could happen any day and has nothing to do with any of the Jewish specials days or holidays or feast days. Nothing to do with the alignment of planets or asteroids coming in or whatever.
 
Now please do not get me wrong, I think the time is very very near and could happen anyday. But as a Gentile and like most Gentiles, I have no idea what the Jews celebrate or how they celebrate. Once the "fulness of the Gentiles" has come then the rapture takes place.THEN the Jews may be able to calculate using the Holidays and Feast days. But please do not get discouraged if your timing is off.
 
We are to be watching and looking at all the events that are happening and how near it is but as for the time of the rapture, it could be any day.
 
I love reading the post on these different timings and dates and I encourage you to keep it up. I just pray people will not get discouraged when the dates do not pan out because,again, the rapture can happen any day and will not be tied to the Feast days. Why would God have an event that was kept secret form the Jewish nation happen on Jewish holidays?
 
Thanks
Mike W