Readers - this post, which you will have to read ti understand ... http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2013/clay228-2.htm is incomplete - I thought I had forgotten something that was important, and I was right. I left off the last bit of evidence. Strong's 717 h appears in two verses first verse: Psalms 80:12 "Why hast thou then broken down her hedges, so that all they which pass by the way do pluck her?" has a total verse value of 1841 this is confirmation that the AC is in the area. Jesus is Lord.