John B.,Quoting your post to Ron Reese today, "If you read MY post TO Kevin Heckle from yesterday you will see that Kevin has proved without a doubt that Obama is the second beast...... the false prophet............... and not the antichrist."Are you dyslexic? To begin with, HOW could I prove Obama is the false prophet in YOUR POST TO ME? That doesn't even make sense. No wonder you claim confusion.Secondly, MY WHOLE RESPONSE WAS SPENT PROVING THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST IS REFERRING TO THE ANTICHRIST, the protagonist of Rev. 13 and NOT the Lieutenant, the False Prophet.BOTTOM LINE - 666=ANTICHRIST, a MAN.Whether my speculations regarding Obama=AC may turn out to be true or not, I simply said at the end of my post to you, HIS FORMER LIEUTENANT the Jew Rahm Emanuel, ALSO has a Gematria value of 666 associated with his name. The second beast rising from "out of the earth" is indicative of the Hebrew people, which Rahm E. also is.Don't twist my words though into something I ABSOLUTELY DID NOT SAY. Did you NOT read the last sentence in my post?"I would though, based on these Biblical facts, HOLD TO THE NOTION the NUMBER of the NAME that John the Revelator was referring to in 13:18 is the PRIME CHARACTER: The Antichrist, whoever he may be".In your original, "I am confused" post to me you said this: "You took that number and built an airtight case (in my opinion) as to the identity of the beast in Rev.13. Your conclusions that this beast will be BHO are in my mind totally correct and accurate. But I truly believe you have made your case for the wrong beast."How could my case be "airtight" if it was assembled around a false premise as you demand it is? My "case" claiming Obama is only partially based around the number, with many posts regarding the Biblical characteristics and historical typologies of the ANTICHRIST, NOT the FALSE PROPHET.How could you misconstrue my BLATANT STATEMENT that the NUMBER OF THE NAME in Revelation 13:18 IS THE PRIME CHARACTER: THE Antichrist INTO "proof without a doubt" that Obama is the "second beast...the false prophet"? You cannot and I expect a written public retraction to the contrary.In fact, I have not and cannot prove without a doubt that Obama is ANYTHING but a saavy and charismatic left-wing politician whose various names in various languages add up to 666 in various ways and that he also matches the other Biblical characteristics. In many of my posts I've even said, should Obama prove NOT to be the Antichrist, that I would owe him an apology for making the connection public.By the title of your post, "I am confused", and then also to go on and attempt to prove ONLY your interpretation: I knew it meant you weren't confused at all, your mind was singularly made up. Your post was an attempt to teach something contrary to the general consensus by USING my "airtight" case. When my response was the opposite, instead of rebutting me you claimed I agreed with you in a post to someone else that I may not have usually read. I wondered why there was no rebuttal from you to me, so I clicked on your post to Mr. Reese. However, many others were going to read your post with Ron Reese and you thought you'd boost your position by using my supposed credibility. I can conclude then that you are either intentionally trying to mislead or confuse people. Either that or you are dyslexic in your thinking. Blatantly bearing false witness CERTAINLY isn't Christian.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Directly addressing your faulty interpretation:You assert that the 666 number refers to "a man" and could not refer to the antichrist, as that first Beast is a "spirit" being. Is man not also a spirit being? The Beast rises out of the "of the sea" (a reference to the Gentiles) yet is ALSO said to rise out of the bottomless pit which, in the Greek is an abyss, a bottomless well or HELL. WHICH IS IT, the Sea or Hell? IT'S BOTH, God is not the Author of Confusion! Rev 13:3 says one of the heads seemed as if it were wounded to death. In the simplest sense, the spirit of man lives on, even after the body is dead.Where does the spirits of the lost go? THEY GO INTO THE Abyss, the BOTTOMLESS PIT, Sheol, Hell, Hades, etc.Revelation 13:3 also says that the DEADLY WOUND WAS HEALED.Where does the spirit of the risen-from-the-sea Beast come from? OUT OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT, YET HE'S STILL A MAN.After the apparent resurrection of the Beast, he is EMPOWERED by the dragon, SATAN himself, for 42 months.The Sea BEAST has flesh, lest there could not APPEAR A WOUND. Can a "spirit" spill the blood of a deadly wound and be seen by the whole world to heal?CHAPTERS are also spent by Daniel describing the actions of a MAN, the antichrist, not an apparition.Finally, there is this:Whom do you say is the MAN OF SIN, aka. the SON OF PERDITION? Is he JUST a man or ALSO a product of Hell?2Th 2:3 KJV - Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.Who is this MAN in 2 Thessalonians 2:3, the Antichrist or the False Prophet?Are they, a spirit and a man separately in competition with eachother for God's throne?In Christ,Kevin H.