Gino (20 Mar 2022)
"one of the fallen celestial princes"


(In Ezekiel 38 & 39, there is a description about the Gog / Magog wars.
It appears that what Ezekiel describes has dual fulfillment.
Some happens before Jesus returns, and some happens at the end of the thousand year kingdom.
Both wars are referenced in terms of Gog and Magog.
Is it likely that Gog is one of the chief fallen celestial princes?)

 

Ezekiel 39:1 Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

 

(There are other celestial princes, many of whom are fallen celestial beings:)

 

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

 

(But there are also celestial princes, still on the side of the LORD, that fight the fallen princes:)

 

Daniel 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.
  20 Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come.
  21 But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.

 

Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

 

John 16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

 

(The prince of Persia and the prince of Grecia are celestial princes.
However, Michael and Gog are called chief princes:)

 

Daniel 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.

 

Ezekiel 39:1 Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

 

So, no, Gog is not a Russian leader, attacking Israel in 2 wars that are 1,000 years apart, i.e. he’s not Putin.
Many Christians so much wanted to believe this, that they used to call one of the Soviet premiers, “Gogachov”.)

 

(About 800 years before Josephus mentioned a connection of Magog with the Scythians in what would later be called Russia,
            the Assyrian Court Records had previously identified Magog with Lydia, where the seven churches would later be:)

 

The correct identification of Magog with Lydia and not Scythia is consistent with the ancient texts of the Assyrians, who at various times were either the allies or the foes of the Scythians, but had peaceful dealings with the Lydians, who they also referred to as ‘Magog.’
The ancient nations of Ezekiel 38/39 makes reference to a group of ancient nations that are all found in Asia Minor: Magog (Lydia), Meshech, Tubal, Togarmah and Gomer. The correct identification of these nations comes from the “Royal Court Records of the Assyrians”; the primary source on this subject.

 

(That would equate Magog with the area of the seven churches, particularly Pergamos.
Historical Assyrian records show that Meshech and Tubal were longstanding adversaries of Assyria.
They were presumably under Assyrian control during the times of David, then Tiglath-pileser, and then Sargon II.
Assyria did not conquer Magog/Lydia, but fought others in alliance with them.
It is interesting that it says, “Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal”.
And that it did not say, “the chief prince of Magog”, nor “the chief prince of Magog, Meshech, and Tubal.
That would mean that Magog is where Pergamos was, where the seat of Satan is, which seat will be given to the antichrist.)

 

(Did the celestial chief prince of Assyria fall before the celestial prince of Babylon?
Was the celestial prince of Assyria, then cast into the bottomless pit, by other celestial princes?
Does he ascend out of the bottomless pit in the tribulation, to possess the antichrist?
So, is Gog, the chief prince of Assyria, and therefore also the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal?
Will he, in the body of the antichrist, have rule, once again, over which he had before?
That would then include Meshech, Tubal, and Togarmah, which make up eastern Turkey?
But also, given the seat of Satan in Pergamos, this time, have influence over Magog, the area of western Turkey?
So, if Gog is the chief prince of Assyria, then he moves earthly armies against Jerusalem again, two more times.
Once, at the end of the tribulation, and then again at the end of the kingdom:)

 

(If so, it would help explain two things:)

 

Ezekiel 38:17 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them?

 

(The Assyrian has been mentioned by the prophets, and also that way he will be in the land, again when Jesus returns:)

 

Micah 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
  4 And he shall stand and feed in the strength of the LORD, in the majesty of the name of the LORD his God; and they shall abide: for now shall he be great unto the ends of the earth.
  5 And this man shall be the peace, when the Assyrian shall come into our land: and when he shall tread in our palaces, then shall we raise against him seven shepherds, and eight principal men.