Laurie Hane (8 June 2012)
"Wow Barry....yesterdays responce about Moses posting"


I'll say it again,   Wow Barry,  
 
I wont wait until the end to repost your letter from yesterday incase someone is interested in reading it.  I also have a bit of a post at the end, maybe some further gleaning for those that might be interested.
 
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/barrya67.htm
 
You tied to many things together, or should I say the Lord blessed one who was faithful, to tie all those ends together. 
For those that would rather read interesting tidbits:
 
1.  from Barry's letter:

We know from all of Paul's teaching that the righteousness which is of the law is no righteousness but many are still trying to please God or obtain righteousness by keeping the law. Moses did something to give us understanding of what this does in a spiritual sense. We are told in Hebrews that to return to the law after having tasted the free gift of Jesus is to do something very severe:


Hebrews 6: 4

those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5. And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6. If they shall fall away [return to another path including the works of the law], to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh


Do you see it now? Can you think of what Moses did that was the same as crucifying Jesus a second time after He was already crucified once? It was when Moses struck the rock which was Jesus, the second time and the water came forth again but Moses had struck the rock when God instructed him to SPEAK to the rock. It is the word of faith that we must speak and not to strike the rock, Jesus a second time. If we return to the law after having tasted the water of life of Jesus we are doing what Moses did in type.

Not many are willing to tackle these difficult verses.  I can see how you are using it here in a way that I haven't thought of before.  I also know that it is also a directive to those that hold onto a sin.  If they are not in agreement with the Lord over a sin issue and do not want to ask for forgiveness for it....and turn from it....there is no other sacrifice for sin. Either you put it under the blood or you don't.  Look at Cain....he tried another means for forgiveness with his sacrifice and see how far it got him?  For those sins we commit following salvation that we don't put under the blood  through confession and turning away from, we will suffer the wrath of God's judgment during/following the judgment seat of Christ.  There is no other sacrifice for sin!
 
 
 
 
 
2.  from Barry's letter
 
Romans 10:
5. For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6. But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
7. Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
8. But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9. That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Moses was supposed to SPEAK to the rock, Jesus, the second time after he had already struck it earlier and believe that the waters would gush forth. We also are to believe in our hearts and confess with our mouth that God will save us according to His promises. But if we return to the deeds of the law instead of relying on faith in what God promised then we are striking the rock the second time and this resulted in what? Anybody?
Remember what happened to Moses as a result of him having done this? What was God's punishment for Moses?
It was that Moses would SEE the Promised Land with his eyes but he would not enter it alive but would have to die in the wilderness first in order to get in even though Moses begged and pleaded with God to let him in alive. This is why this is for us who are right at the time of the rapture. It is us today who are either going to believe God in our hearts and speak the word of faith and be saved by it or else seek to keep the law again and strike the rock the second time. As if we can help Jesus make us righteous by ascending to heaven to help Christ come down or descend into the deep to bring Christ up from the dead. Since we can do no such thing but He had to do it all Himself, we also can offer no help in keeping the law either. This will matter when the rapture happens.
My beloved brothers and sisters, I so desire you to understand this today because the Hebrews letter goes on to say let us fear lest a promise of God being left us of entering in lest any of you should "come short of it" but the literal is "Lest any of you should wait one day too late" as they did. God has promised us the rapture just as He promised them the Promised Land. Moses became an example of modern Christians right at the brink of the rapture, where we are today, who should have, could have, would have entered in alive, but who struck the rock the second time rather than SPEAK the word of faith from their heart.
Moses and that generation died in the wilderness though Moses saw the Promised Land with his eyes he could not enter it alive. This is to illustrate to us today that those who commit this offense of trying to keep the law will not be able to enter into the rapture but will have to die in this wilderness world first to get in even though they will weep and beg God to be taken in alive He will have to say no.
I think some verses you might find interesting to add to this understanding, verses that came to my mind while I read this, is John 3: 3-6.  Here you have Christ referencing those that will see the kingdom of heaven vs. those that will enter into the kingdom of heaven.  While you associate the rapture with Moses seeing the promised land, I think in John you have the exact wording  about seeing and entering and it should be considered with the knowledge you have gleaned from the Lord. 
 
Thank you for your post!!
 
Laurie