Donna Danna (7 July 2024)
"TO GINO:  JESUS WITH THE REPENTANT THIEF IN PARADISE"


This is in reply to your 6/30 post RE: Donna Danna: 06.23.24: with the repentant thief (fivedoves.com) in which you stated "Is it possible, that whether paradise was in heaven or in the heart of the earth, at that time, that Jesus could still be with the repentant thief, after he died, as well? 
 Jesus is simultaneously both fully God and fully man. In his earthly ministry, his deity was veiled, (except for the peek that Peter, James, and John saw with the transfiguration). The Son of God took on flesh, but he didn't give up some of his deity, since God is immutable (i.e. he can't "un-God" himself). Therefore, since he is God, that includes, not only omniscience, but also omnipresence:

    John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

    He said to Nicodemus that he "is" in heaven, while he is talking with him on the earth."



When I wrote my 6/23 post HOW COULD THE THIEF BE IN PARADISE WITH JESUS ON THE SAME DAY WHEN JESUS DIDN'T ASCEND TO HEAVEN UNTIL AFTER 3 DAYS? (fivedoves.com) I never thought about Jesus being in Hell and up in heaven at the same time since Jesus told Mary Magdalene not to touch Him after He was resurrected as He had not yet ascended to His Father in heaven since John 20:17 says, "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God."

However, I did think about Jesus first preaching to the spirits in prison in Hell (1Peter 3:19-20), and then going to Abraham's Bosom where the righteous dead were which could be seen from Hell according to Luke 16:19-26.  Also Bible scholars believe that Ephesians 4:8, "Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men" means that when Jesus ascended into heaven that he took those captives in Abraham's Bosom with Him to Paradise which was now in heaven.