Thanks CharlesI figured some body would replyPart of the problem is the formatInstant reply unmonitored can be dangerousSo that is why I like it hereNotice I did not mention where or who it came fromSo that is only known by the participansMy thoughts on this all started with a person who was sharing elaborate self glorifying dreams that people thought were from GodThis occurred some where elseSo the thought just kind of grew from thereLast year I noted an article re Zionism from this person that was skewed too much and some got upsetSo, sometimes when you see a particular conflict you may have to go back a ways.A person can share a lot of good, but after a while you may begin to see problems concerning their understanding of ChristianitySo if a person starts trying to dismantling the basics without correction, I have a problem with thatPerhaps you recall me sharing my personal experience of going to hell briefly before I became a Christian.I hope you understand why it is I get upset when someone who is giving you the impression that they are grounded in the word would dispute the reality of hell and get away with it.All sorts of people come and go at these web sitesBut really there is not much accountability accept by a moderator or the participants checking each otherBut it has to be done if we are really contending for the faithThe things that I mentioned where all admittedNot fellow shipping by attending church, calling all churches Babylon, thinking tithing is unnecessary, trying to dismiss some harsh Biblical realities, such as hell by using a different interpretation.They all say the same thing.It is obviously rebellion.So contrary to their thinking, it is not enlightenmentI was not speaking about everything that is shared at this placeI was speaking of not dealing with certain things that were shared there.BTW, I might be a frank but I am not the wurst, though some might beg to differ