David H (30 July 2013)
"Charles Holler...bewitching Christians"


 

Charles,
Greetings, I do not think I have communicated with you directly.
 
A response to your letter to Frank M.
 
I believe that this more complex an issue than many of us make it out to be. Yes, I am in full agreement with you regarding judging the Tares. It is the Lord that will separate them, as per 1 Peter 4:17 "17 For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?"
 
As per this verse, this Judgment is a precursor to the rapture, and as many of you believe, we are in "those days".
 
But we are also told to confront the person who is a brother within the churches who is living ungodly lives. As Paul wrote In 1 Corinthians 5:9-13.
 
9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. 11 But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church[b] whom you are to judge? 13 God judges[c] those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”
 
We are also told to confront those who are false prophets and apostles within our churches by exposing them and their teachings, by testing the spirits and their fruit as you so aptly pointed out. Paul writes the following:
 
12 And what I am doing I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds. (2 Corinthians 11:12-15)
 
I would conclude from the preceding, therefore, that we are to test the spirits, and their fruit, and then expose them and undermine their claims and disassociate with them....And that is it. We are not to seek vengeance, instead we are to suffer persecution at their hands, As Christ himself did (1 Peter 2:23). As did all the apostles. Every time in the new testament, a teaching on false prophets and teachers is written about it is always followed by a discourse on suffering patiently at their hands.
 
Please read my letter from yesterday.
 
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/july2013/davidh728.htm
 
 
Polycarp prayed the following as he was burned at the stake:

" I bless You because You have granted me this day and hour, that I might receive a portion amongst the number of martyrs in the cup of Your Christ unto resurrection of eternal life, both of soul and of body, in the incorruptibility of the Holy Spirit. May I be received among these in Your presence this day, as a rich and acceptable sacrifice, as You did prepare and reveal it beforehand, and have accomplished it, You that art the faithful and true God." (Martyrdom of Polycarp 14:2)
 
Eyewitnesses to this marveled as his burning Body smelled of incense, A sweet aroma to the Lord.
 
Thank you for your letter, It was a blessing, as is the writing of Frank M.
God bless. Luke 6:27-30
 
David H.