Vonda Wood (31 Jan 2011)
"To George regarding birth year math"

 
Hi George
I am not looking for a continued argument on this point but I will respond to your post regarding the birth year math because you seem to be missing the call for peace, love, gentleness and harmony. Your post suggests that I must accept a non-Biblical sign that resonates with you but not me as an equal sign to a Biblical sign :
"Dissmising the math of adding the birth year + age = 111, as nothing significant is the same as dissmising all the other signs like the multiple death of so many birds, fishes and cattle as nothing significant also. The fishes, well the water got too cold for them, the birds, well they got lost, etc. , etc. The same with the sings in the sky. These ARE signs that the end of the world as we know it, it`s here now. The same with the birth year plus the age and getting 111. It is VERY significant. This IS the year of the 111. The year of the start of the tragic events of the tribulation and then the RAPTURE followed by the sudden destruction.

Let me quote a couple verses for you:
Zeph 1:3
King James Bible
I will consume man and beast; I will consume the fowls of the heaven, and the fishes of the sea, and the stumblingblocks with the wicked; and I will cut off man from off the land, saith the LORD.

Hosea 4:3
King James Bible
Therefore shall the land mourn, and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven; yea, the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away.

Clearly the Bible speaks of the signs we are seeing with the worldwide death of birds, fish, cattle. Where in the Bible does it speak of a sign of 1s as a marker of the end days? The above verses are pretty direct and clear verses regarding the birds and fish. So, you are saying seeing 1s (non-Biblical) is an equal sign to death of fish and birds (Biblical) and therefore I MUST find this significant. You seem to believe it is your job to correct me on something that is non-Biblical, yet clearly the Bible tells us not to judge or condemn each other. In fact, the Bible states your condemnation will come back at you.

Let me reiterate a few verses listed in a previous post
As Matthew 7:1 says, "Do not judge others, and you will not be judged." 

Luke 6:37 expands on this and says, "Do not judge others, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn others, or it will all come back against you. Forgive others, and you will be forgiven.". This is pretty strong in stating your condemnation of others will come back at you! 

In John 8, when the adultress is brought before Jesus to entrap Him, Jesus makes it clear that although the Pharisees "... judge me by human standards, but I do not judge anyone." So maybe we can all work on sharing our view points without insisting others agree. Perhaps we can refrain from judging others faith based on a widely accepted belief in pre-trib. In John 13, when Jesus was explaining to the disciples that He would not be with them much longer, His instructions were, "So now I am giving you a new commandment: Love each other. Just as I have loved you, you should love each other. 35Your love for one another will prove to the world that you are my disciples.”


I agree with you in that I believe there are many significant things occurring this year that lead me to believe this is the year of our departure - I am focused on Biblical signs as I am sure you are too. What is in question here is the non-Biblical signs that the Holy Spirit resonates in each of our hearts - the 1s thing is not one that resonates with me and clearly it does with many of people including you. And yes, this is 2011 - I just don't look at 1s as my evidence. I am happy that you and many others have this resonate with your spirit - that is great. I do not feel the same way about the 1s and that is perfectly ok. I do not question you or others for your excitement on seeing 1s, in fact I believe this is a sign that God has given you - to build your faith and certainly excitement. Then there are people seeing other non-Biblical things and I accept they are receiving something for them from the Holy Spirit. I have my own things that the Holy Spirit resonates with me. Each of us is different - the Bible speaks of this difference in the discourse about the various parts of the body in 1 Cor. 12

12The human body has many parts, but the many parts make up one whole body. So it is with the body of Christ. 13Some of us are Jews, some are Gentiles,e some are slaves, and some are free. But we have all been baptized into one body by one Spirit, and we all share the same Spirit.f

14Yes, the body has many different parts, not just one part. 15If the foot says, “I am not a part of the body because I am not a hand,” that does not make it any less a part of the body. 16And if the ear says, “I am not part of the body because I am not an eye,” would that make it any less a part of the body? 17If the whole body were an eye, how would you hear? Or if your whole body were an ear, how would you smell anything?

18But our bodies have many parts, and God has put each part just where he wants it. 19How strange a body would be if it had only one part! 20Yes, there are many parts, but only one body. 21The eye can never say to the hand, “I don’t need you.” The head can’t say to the feet, “I don’t need you.”

22In fact, some parts of the body that seem weakest and least important are actually the most necessary. 23And the parts we regard as less honorable are those we clothe with the greatest care. So we carefully protect those parts that should not be seen, 24while the more honorable parts do not require this special care. So God has put the body together such that extra honor and care are given to those parts that have less dignity. 25This makes for harmony among the members, so that all the members care for each other. 26If one part suffers, all the parts suffer with it, and if one part is honored, all the parts are glad.


Again, I would ask that we all refrain from putting each other down for our own beliefs. Feel free to be excited by seeing 1s, feel free to share your thoughts, but PLEASE refrain from insulting those of us that are not excited by a non-Biblical sign. Further, this fervent and adamant insistence that everyone agree with you on something non-biblical does not reflect the love we were commanded to share with each other. 

It seems to me that gentleness is not reigning this site - all I am asking for is for each of us to be free to share with no one attacking/putting down/dressing down/insulting/judging each other - particularly on an item that is not a clear and direct Biblical sign but rather a personal resonation
Consider Col.3
12Since God chose you to be the holy people he loves, you must clothe yourselves with tenderhearted mercy, kindness, humility, gentleness, and patience. 13Make allowance for each other’s faults, and forgive anyone who offends you. Remember, the Lord forgave you, so you must forgive others. 14Above all, clothe yourselves with love, which binds us all together in perfect harmony. 15And let the peace that comes from Christ rule in your hearts. For as members of one body you are called to live in peace. And always be thankful.

So in peace and love I ask that we respect each other - this type of behavior is surely preventing some meek folks from sharing in fear they will be attacked. Consider the testimony of our behavior and I am asking that we "live" with each other on this site in peace, love, and harmony.