Donna Danna (20 Feb 2022)
"REPLY TO GARRY B. -- THE RAPTURE IS JUDGMENT, BUT THE 7 SEALS AREN'T EXCLUSIVELY FOR ISRAEL"


In reply to your 2/12 post REPLY TO DONNA DANNA : ( 6 Feb 2022 ) THE RAPTURE IS JUDGMENT (fivedoves.com) I would definitely agree with you that the Rapture is judgment.  It's judgment on the house of God which is where judgment begins. 1st Peter 4:17, "For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?"  In my opinion, I think that the born again Christians are gathered & raptured to heaven just after the falling away but before the 1,260 days of the Antichrist's reign on Earth.  

However, I don't see the seals the same as you because you have indicated in your above post that the seals 1 thru 4 pertain exclusively to Israel. While you believe that seal 1 pertains to the Gog-Magog war against Israel, I see seal 1 as the Antichrist who invades Israel & who is given a crown for 1,260 days where he can rule over the Earth, and those that worship him will receive the mark of the beast in the right hand or in the forehead in order to buy and sell. Just 30 days prior to that he takes away the daily sacrifice in the Jewish temple in Jerusalem according to Daniel 12:11, "And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days." So we Christians should know who the Antichrist is when he takes away the daily sacrifice prior to the abomination of desolation being set up 30 days later so hopefully we Christians should be gathered together and raptured up to heaven before the Antichrist begins his 1,260 reign and rule over the people on the Earth when he spiritually conquers the people of earth by their watching his mortal deadly wound being healed which may involve what looks like him being resurrected from the dead by a sign & lying wonder & the people on earth worship the Antichrist as God. And any other signs & lying wonders performed by the Antichrist would confirm to those deluded people that he is God.

As for the 2nd seal of war, it takes peace from the earth; it doesn't say it takes peace from Israel so that is not exclusively for Israel nor is the 3rd seal of famine & the 4th seal of death which you believe all apply exclusively to Israel.  I would have to disagree with you because Rev. 6:8 about the 4th seal says, "And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth." To kill with the sword would also apply to the 2nd seal of war in which the 4th part of the earth is killed.  The 3rd seal of hunger also applies to the 4th part of the earth when famine kills the 4th part of the people on earth and not just Israel.  Also the 4th seal of death also applies to the fourth part of the earth that are killed by the beasts of the earth. So the first 4 seals are not exclusively for Israel as you claim because Israel is not a fourth part of the earth.  It's a smaller nation compared to the U.S. and the Soviet Union and others as well.

As for the 5th seal, I believe the Lord is comforting those souls who were martyred during the first part of the great tribulation of 1,260 days of the Antichrist's reign on earth before the 7 trumpets are sounded & the 7 vials of wrath are poured out on the earth & these martyrs are the ones that came out of the great tribulation who were beheaded by the Antichrist for not worshipping him & the image of the beast & this great multitude is taken to heaven after the 6th seal is opened, & the 144,000 Jews are sealed in the forehead.  Rev. 7:14 says, "And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb" which means they have repented of their sins, confessed them to the Lord & the blood of Jesus Christ cleansed them from all unrighteousness.  The 7th seal is opened after which the 7 trumpets being sounded with their judgments falling on the people left behind on earth & then the 7 vials of wrath are poured out on those left behind in the whole world & those who worshipped the Antichrist and took his mark in the forehead or in the right hand in order to buy and sell.

After the 1st trumpet is sounded, "and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up and all green grass was burnt up" according to Rev. 8:7. In my opinion, I think this would correspond to 2 Thess. 1:6-10, "Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you; And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking 
vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day."
And at that time Rev. 6:15-18 takes place, "And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"