Amy VanGerpen (27 Feb 2012)
"RE: Sunless Heaven"

 
Hi Mary Anna,

No "need of sun" and "no light of the sun" does not mean there is no sun.  For example, let's say that the headlights on my car are the sun and the moon.  In this example, my headlights are "ordained" to be a part of my vehicle in the same manner that the sun and the moon are ordained to move about the universe :


Jeremiah 31:35-36 Thus says the LORD, Who gives the sun for a light by day, The ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night, Who disturbs the sea, And its waves roar (The LORD of hosts is His name): " If those ordinances depart From before Me, says the LORD, Then the seed of Israel shall also cease From being a nation before Me forever."

An ordinance is a law.  In other words, these Heavenly bodies will continue to follow the law of motion that the Lord set them in forever. If we go back to the example of the headlights on my car, they are ordained to always be a part of my car.  Now if it there is never night, because God's glory always shows, does that negate the fact that my car still has headlights? 

Sure, I don't need the light of the headlights any more with the glory of God lighting the way.  But if they have been "ordained" by law to have them, that doesn't mean they cease to exist, just because they don't give light, or because their light is no longer needed.  I don't know if this is the best example.  However, the point is, if you say the sun will no longer exist, then you also must believe that Israel will cease from being a nation before God, which is clearly not the case:

1 Chronicles 17:22 For You have made Your people Israel Your very own people forever; and You, LORD, have become their God.

2 Chronicles 9:8 Blessed be the LORD your God, who delighted in you, setting you on His throne to be king for the LORD your God! Because your God has loved Israel, to establish them forever, therefore He made you king over them, to do justice and righteousness.”

Maranatha!
Amy Van Gerpen




Mary Anna (25 Feb 2012)
"Amy VanGerpen (24 Feb 2012)   "RE: Mary Anna""

 
Amy, my dear,
 
 If God said there will be no sun in Heaven , there will be no sun and what I believe.   Perhaps you don't!

Rev.21:23  "And the city Heaven had no need of sun.....for the Glory of God did lighten it. and the lamb is the light thereof.

Rev. 22:5  "And there shall be no night there; ....neither light of the sun: for the Lord giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever".        Amen

Jeremiah is in the O.T.   Christ made all things new in the N.T.   It's all through it!
 
Lets end this!  I will write no more .. .Amy, if it pleases you to believe there's a sun in heaven do so, but as Christ Jesus is my Witness, you're wrong!

Mary Anna