Gino (5 Dec 2013)
"RE: Lisa Taylor: 11.30.13: the Trinity"


Lisa,
You and Marilyn have written such great things.
I particularly enjoyed your handling of the doctrine of the Godhead.
There was one thing that you had written that I wanted to ask something about:

"I have already cited verses to show that when the incarnate Jesus was here on earth, He was not in heaven with the Father."

Yes, as incarnate, he was fully man, but he was still fully God.
He never ceased being God, therefore he always was and always will be omnipresent.
How can the omnipresent God not be in heaven?
Jesus, himself, said as much, when he was speaking to Nicodemus:

John 3:10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
 11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
 12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
 13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

According to his own words, he was in heaven, at the same moment that he was on earth, incarnate, speaking to Nicodemus.
The LORD, in eternity, exists as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
That already is unfathomable to us, as we cannot relate to either the concept of eternity or to the nature of the Godhead, we simply believe it because of the scriptures.
We understand some things about this, because it has been revealed, but there is nothing in our experience in time whereby we can really know what eternity is.
Even more so, we cannot relate to the nature of the Godhead, especially the LORD's incommunicable attributes.
Therefore, the incarnation, where it involves, simultaneously, a real man in time, as well the real eternal, omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent God, is beyond our reasoning.
The eternal God cannot stop being eternal, nor omnipresent, otherwise he would not be immutable, which is another of his attributes.
Thank you,
Gino