RESPONSE TO DOUG L ''(the bride is chosen/taken out from the Church)''

Doug, I tend to agree with your statement : ''(the bride is chosen/taken out from the Church)''.

HOWEVER, this creates a '' problem''. If some of the church, those born again, are left behind.....then they would be suffering the Wrath of God during the Tribulation.....which many say IS the wrath of God.....right?

But I ​Thes. 5 says none of the church will suffer the wrath of God.

In common sense, God does not use Wrath for His converted children....although He does use correction.

So how is that reconciled?

Some have taught that there is a 7 year tribulation that IS the wrath of God. But this is not true. .....for it puts some of the church in the Wrath of God.....those left behind.

There is satan's wrath mentioned in Rev chapter 12.....''he has come down having great wrath''......this is during the Tribulation......

The long accepted teaching of Daniel 9 about the ''prince who to come'' as being the anti-christ is wrong. The entire Daniel 9 passage is about Jesus. 

When the Jews rejected Jesus on the cross....they no longer were His people. Thus, the ''people of the Prince who is to come'' are the Gentiles....ie Titus. 

''I will call those who are not my people, my people.''

God's wrath comes in Revelation 8:1.....after the Heavenly signs mentioned in chapter 6.....'' for His wrath has come''.

Otherwise the sealing of the 144,000 Jews would also be suffering the wrath of God during the first 5 seals since they are not ''sealed'' until after these seals are accomplished ....not until Rev. ch 7.

Before the wrath of God starts in Rev. 8:1 ALL SAINTS WHO WENT THROUGH SATAN'S WRATH.....NOT GOD'S WRATH.....ARE CAUGHT UP TO HEAVEN.....See end of Rev. chapter 7.....the innumerable multitude are NOW seen in heaven.

So there is a Rapture in Revelation chapter 4: 1 and another one at the end of the 6th seal.....BEFORE the wrath of God is unleashed.

dp