1 Cor 10:31 (28 Aug 2016)
"wanted to CLARFIY something.... thank you"


Hi Doves….

Last week I said I wouldn’t debate this topic of pre vs. mid….. so all I’m doing here is merely CLARIFYING what I wrote last week… and I find the easiest way to do this is by responding to an email.

 

 

 

Answering an email:

  

Yes, yes, yes, of course I realize there will be later gathering of saints into heaven; that is clear according to Revelation 6 & 7.  B-b-but!!!!!   This gathering is not the same as the PRE-TRIB rapture which we should pray we’re included in so we may escape ALL of the Tribulation. 

You’re right of course, and perhaps I came on a little too strong, but even so in other areas of Scripture believers are encouraged to not debate/argue with one another, thus my reason for dropping out of the “debate”  (and believe me, people LIKE to debate it to death!!)

YES, all of God’s Word is inspired by the Holy Spirit and every single word of it is important and there for a reason.

Reading in Revelation 6, we do indeed see a GREAT MULTITUDE of ones who are then currently standing before the Lord…. These are ones who got saved during the Tribulation and/or carnal Christians (of Laodicea) who were left behind & told to wash their robes in the blood of the Lamb.   Remember?  Earlier in Rev. 3:17 ~ these were the people (who likely went to church every Sunday they could spare when not busy with football, soccer, school, boating, fishing, car races, et al & perhaps performed rituals of being what they thought was a good Christian…. But in reality they were hearers only & not doers of the Word….they lived just like the world!!)   Because you say, 'I am rich, and have gotten riches, and have need of nothing;' and don't know that you are the wretched one, miserable, poor, blind, and naked; 

At any rate, I know that, too, can be argued to death whether ALL Christians go in the pre-trib rapture, or relatively few….. because of wise/unwise virgins, because of the Church of Laodecia & only Philadelphia is rewarded with being taken out, and because of Luke 21:36 CLEARLY tells people to PRAY to be accounted worthy to escape, this certainly is proof enough to me that not everyone will be counted worthy.  Why pray for such a thing otherwise?? 

So back to the other, yes, of course, there will later be a gathering of saints who arrive in heaven – scholars tend to think this happens around the middle part of the Tribulation or perhaps even 2/3 of the way through…. [And thus this is how many end up believing the entire rapture will be at mid-trib….]  Yet, what the mid trib believers fail to understand is this “GREAT MULTITUDE” mentioned in Revelation 6 ~ every single one of them GOT THERE BY MARTYDOM!!!!!!!!

 

 

Revelation 6:11:

 

New Living Translation
Then a white robe was given to each of them. And they were told to rest a little longer until the full number of their brothers and sisters--their fellow servants of Jesus who were to be martyred--had joined them.

 

Berean Study Bible
Then each of them was given a white robe and told to rest a little while longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers, were killed, just as they had been killed.

Don’t know about you, but hardly anything I’d be LOOKING FORWARD TO!!!!!!   Certainly no reason to “comfort one another” with the words:   “your head’s gonna’ be rolling soon….. most likely whacked off by the chrislam-islam crowd, or the one world religion people who’ll think they’re doing God a favor for your stubborn refusal to worship the world dictator and have his tattoo put on your head or hand”…… 

But here’s the ding-ding aha moment – not only would going by martyrdom be nothing to look forward to…… but if EVERY Christian got raptured that way (by martyrdom) – then there would be NO ONE alive to “meet the Lord Jesus in the air!!!!!!


 

1 Thess 4:16-18

 

The Return of the Lord
…16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17
After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord. 18Therefore encourage one another with these words.…

 

Hence:  there is a PRE-TRIB rapture before a certain someone becomes the AntiChrist and then following that, all hell breaks loose on this earth. 

This is the (pre-trib) rapture for those counted worthy to escape will participate in.    

We should always be watching and praying to go in THIS rapture!  (Luke 21:36)  and yet, at the same time, we cannot do nothing BUT watch – we’re also commended to be profitable servants!  To redeem the time, to work for a living (or not eat), to abide in the Vine, to do the will of the Father.  All WHILE watching!

 

So after this pre-trib rapture (the one event that will likely shake this world up & wake up millions…. Hence the reason for their salvation in my opinion)  then later on – near the middle of the Tribulation timeline or perhaps afterwards, then the ones who were KILLED FOR THEIR FAITH will be gathered into heaven.

 

Again:

 

Revelation 6:11: 

New Living Translation
Then a white robe was given to each of them. And they were told to rest a little longer until the full number of their brothers and sisters--their fellow servants of Jesus who were to be martyred--had joined them.
 

Berean Study Bible
Then each of them was given a white robe and told to rest a little while longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers, were killed, just as they had been killed.

 

Thanks again for writing. 

Awaiting the 1 Cor 15:52 trumpet blast!!

Maranatha!!