August 17, 2022
Eight weeks of 360-day (prophetic) years from June 7, 1967 will be August 17, 2022.
Eight means “New Birth”. We have a new birth when we become “born again” Christians. There were eight people in Noah’s ark who experienced a new birth in a reborn Earth. May we as the Bride of Christ experience a new birth in Heaven on August 17, 2022!
The 216th (6 x 6 x 6) day for non-leap years on both the current Gregorian and the previous Julian calendar is August 4th. Not surprisingly, the person identified below as the man of sin was born on this date, the 216th day of the year on the current Gregorian calendar. Both the first and second temple in Jerusalem were destroyed on Av 9 of the Hebrew calendar. The second temple was destroyed on Av 9 in 70 AD. This date fell on August 4th of the Julian calendar, in use at that time by Rome who destroyed the temple. August 4th on the Julian calendar is August 17th on the Gregorian in 2022.
Seven weeks of prophetic years from June 7, 1967 marked the anointing of the man of sin by the false prophet. This event occurred on September 23, 2015 in partial fulfillment of Daniel 9:25. For more supporting evidence of this please search on Five Doves for previous posts.
Seven means “Completeness, Perfection or Bringing to an End”. Seven weeks ending September 23, 2015 brought to an end the seven weeks of Daniel’s 70 week prophecy. I first realized this in 2003 as documented in the below link.
http://web.archive.org/web/20031026022208/http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2003/tedp108.htm
I later learned that I was not the only one who had reached the same conclusion. What I did not realize at the time was the identity of the prince who kingdom was now of this Earth who would be anointed by someone greater than himself on this date. I thought this would be Jesus Christ returning to set up His kingdom on Earth being anointed by God the Father. However, it became evident that it would be the antithesis instead.
Six weeks of prophetic years from June 7, 1967 marked the revealing of the man of sin to the world on October 29, 2008 in fulfillment of the second part of II Thessalonians 2:3.
Six means “satan – his influence”.
F. M. Riley in one of his last posts to Five Doves before being taken home reminded us that there are two requirements which must occur before Jesus Christ returns. First, the falling away of the Church from the Gospel of Jesus Christ known as the apostasy. Second, the revealing of the man of sin.
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; II Thessalonians 2:1-3
June 7, 1967 marked the commandment by Moshe Dayan to restore Jerusalem to Israel which started the seven weeks of prophetic years of Daniel 9:25 and ended the two times (2,000 prophetic years) of the Gentiles as prophesied in Luke 21:24.
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. Luke 21:24
8 x 7 x 360 + 6/7/1967 = 8/17/2022
7 x 7 x 360 + 6/7/1967 = 9/23/2015
6 x 7 x 360 + 6/7/1967 = 10/29/2008
Traditionally, (at least by the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob), the time between the revealing of the man of sin and the return of Jesus Christ to destroy him with the brightness of His coming is held to be the “time of Jacob’s trouble”.
And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: II Thessalonians 2:8
Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it. Jeremiah 30:7
The time of Jacob’s trouble we know from the story of Jacob to be nominally 20-21 years. It was composed of 7 years for Leah, 7 years for Rachel, 6 years for his flock, and then possibly receiving a Sabbath rest for the 7th year. Watch this beautiful analogy. Jacob worked 14 years for his two brides. Consider our Lord Redeemer Jesus Christ is returning to redeem His two brides in the Bride Theft Rapture from among both the Hebrew and Gentile people of the World. These two brides are represented beautifully in the sky as Pisces, the fish. Consider 14 prophetic years from October 29, 2008 ends on August 17, 2022.
For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree? Romans 11:24
Five Doves Silver Jubilee!
Before I continue, I just wanted to join the many others in celebrating John’s landmark 25th anniversary of starting the FiveDoves.com website. This is the one website I read religiously, (in all its meanings). I found out from searching that the 25th anniversary is referred to as the Silver Jubilee. So:
Happy Silver Jubilee (5 x 5 Years) Five Doves Feb 27, 2022 – To All Past, Present, and Future Posters and Readers!
From the following post as shown in italics:
Fay (27 Feb 2022) - "John Tng"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2022/fay227-6.htm
Thanks, Fay! Today is a special day. In 1997, Feb 27, I started the Five Doves. Exactly FIVE x FIVE years to the day!
JESUS (888) spoke to me this morning via the number 888. He proved that CHRIST is Positive to me to the minute!
God is good!
John
From the rest of the letter by Fay as shown in italics and highlighting two sentences in bold:
Hi John,
Your post from last week linked below. I had to read it many times and do loads of research to understand what you laid out. It's like exquisite poetry for math!
You have never veered from identifying the AC as Obama. You simply keep adding layer upon layer of deeply researched truth. Given this truth - it puts a slant on recent events. Putin bashing rules the day, as far as mainstream media are concerned. I don't doubt that Putin is as evil and as mad as the rest of the world's politicians. That is a given. However - the Biden administration (Obama's puppets) are just as evil. If not more evil.
It's simply a matter of time before that man of sin is revealed (Obama). And I believe we will all still be here to witness it. And I believe that we can stand by the sure word of scripture that tells us that we will be able to see THAT day approaching.
May Almighty God bless you, John Tng. You have provided for the body of Christ. In very many ways. You are a treasure and it will be so very lovely to finally meet you in heaven.
http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/2022/mysterious793.html
Fay
My two cents is that for me, I’m convinced that the man of sin has already been revealed to the world and correctly identified by many including John and myself. Which, if comparing the man of sin as the antithesis of Jesus Christ, who in Jesus time, even His disciples, that recognized Jesus as the Christ, the Son of the living God? Only Simon Peter, at least at first?
When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. Matthew 16:13-17
Many of us were witnesses to October 29, 2008. Along with other watchers on Five Doves, I was very expectantly counting the days leading up to this date hoping for the Rapture of the Bride of Jesus Christ. This date was exactly 42 prophetic years from 6/7/1967. The number 42 is used throughout the Bible to mean the “Second Coming of Jesus Christ”, both His first and second advent. Could it be His first advent?
When, instead on 10/29/2008, a would-be Prince / President / Leader of the Free World preempted the start of the last game of the World Series. For what? He was making a global appeal to lead the world into peace if elected in 6 days as presented in a 30 minute infomercial. It was like, what just happened? It turned out that he was even nominated before he took office for the Nobel Peace prize for which he was awarded the next year.
And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand. Daniel 8:25
The very next day, the actor Steven Baldwin felt led that it was now the right time to reveal something that had been revealed to him by God after an intense period of prayer:.
On October 30, 2008, Baldwin made an appearance on the Ron and Fez Show where he gave subtle hints that he believed that Barack Obama may be the Antichrist after an epiphany he had during an intense period of prayer and meditation, but was told by the Holy Spirit that his revelation is not to be spoken of.
Ron Reese likewise was insightful when he soon posted on Five Doves considering this 30 minute infomercial as corresponding to the 30 minutes of silence in Heaven.
And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. Revelation 8:1
Having watched what all has now transpired it seems apparent to me now that this half an hour in heaven did indeed start with this half hour on earth. Which follows it will extend for the entire half hour in heaven taking into account the apparent time dilation factor between Heaven and Earth.
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. II Peter 3:8
Thirty minutes translates to one 48th of 1000 years which is 20 5/6th years, just shy of 21 years. Considering the whole earth has been corrupted with sin and decay, even the number of days in a solar year. Consider it was originally 360 days. So converting these 20 5/6th 360 day years to 365.2422 day years results in 20.53432 solar years.
Scholars also bring up the 21 years that Jacob mourned for Joseph believing he was dead as a double witness to the length of time of “Jacob’s trouble”.
Besides a half hour, apparently an hour in heaven is also mentioned in scripture.
And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. Revelation 17:12
This one hour period of time can be pretty reliably identified as occurring between the Camp David Accords on September 17, 1978 and the Abraham Accord on August 13, 2020. This period of time is 41.9 solar years which dividing in half is 20.95 solar years.
https://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2021/tedp125-5.htm
An analogy can also be made to the man of sin causing travail upon the Earth for these 20-21 years. In Daniel 10 we find Daniel in mourning for 3 full weeks, (21 days). Then an Angel appears who has been withstanding the “prince of the kingdom of persia” for 21 days.
Now let us consider the visit of Natan in Heaven. Fay said, “I plead with you all to watch it. I have linked it below. If you don't want to sit through the entire clip - start watching from about the 27 minute mark.”
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2022/fay213-5.htm
I ask that you read Fay’s post and join Fay in pleading for you to watch the linked video at the end.
While we all may take away different items from the video, I’d like to point out the apparent confirmation of the time dilation factor between Heaven and Earth. Natan states that he was not allowed to stay in heaven more than 3 hours or he would be unable to return to Earth. The analogy that I picked up on was that man’s lifespan on Earth is limited to around 120 years as some have taken the following scripture as confirming.
And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. Genesis 6:3
The oldest documented person to live was Jeanne Calment who was born on 21 February 1875 and died on 4 August 1997 at the age of 122 years, 164 days in France.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_verified_oldest_people
If one multiplies one half hour times six one arrives at 3 hours. If one multiplies 20 and 20.5 years times six one arrives at 120 and 123 years respectively. So Natan could not stay in Heaven PAST the equivalent of a human life span if he had any wish to return to Earth. Natan also reveals the name of the man of sin as showed to him in heaven, the 666 man himself.
Speaking of six. It has bothered me that while Jesus Christ had a ministry covering 3 ˝ years, why did the man of sin gets a “ministry” of six times that at around 21 years for the time of Jacob’s trouble? Sure, the number for satan and his influence is 6. But wouldn’t it be more fair that the man of sin gets the same amount at 3 ˝ years or at the most twice that at 7 years? But then that’s my own definition of fairness, not God’s. What God then after a good period of prayer brought into my remembrance was that satan’s influence upon man really extends for 6,000 years of man’s history while God’s reign is only 1,000 years after those 6,000 years. Again, a ratio of 6 to 1.
Shalom,
Ted Porter
4/3/2022