Pablo (28 Apr 2011)
"RE: Are Christians who commit suicide still saved?"


 
My humble opinion is that there are no (TRUE) christians who commit suicide, and if a so-called christian commits suicide then I highly doubt he was a true "born again" christian. We must understand the nature of suicide, this is not a once in a moment type of sin, someone that commits suicide is someone that has premeditatedly done it in their minds over and over again, Jesus addressed this very clearly by referring to sinning in your thoughts (in your heart) as being pretty much a sin even though you haven't completed the act. Now add the mere fact that when someone commits suicide they have been thinking about it for a long time prior to actually commiting the act, this is defined as "practicing sin" and what does the apostle John says about someone who calls himself christian that practices sin truly is?

1 John 3:6 (NIV) "No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him."

Now lets see what the author of Hebrews has to say:

Hebrews 6:4-8 (NIV) "It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age 6 and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. 7 Land that drinks in the rain often falling on it and that produces a crop useful to those for whom it is farmed receives the blessing of God. 8 But land that produces thorns and thistles is worthless and is in danger of being cursed. In the end it will be burned.

Surely he is talking about so called christians who practice sin.

Commiting suicide is a premeditated act, it is classified as practicing sin, a true born again christian does not practice sin, let alone the fact that when you are born again you are indwelled with the Holy Spirit that guides you to all truth, you do not belong to yourself you belong to Him, therefore I highly doubt a true born again christian can commit suicide and expect to be saved. Not according to the bible that i read anyways. Surely if this were true then lets all just throw in the towel and give in to our daily temptations and sinful ways, if in the end we will still be saved no matter what we do. 

Now having said that, I do honestly believe that our God is so merciful and graceful that any person who happens to backslide in his walk with Him and truly repents and stops practicing sin, can and will be saved and forgiven, but if you die in your practice of sin without true repentence (premeditated suicide - which is every case IMHO), well... that pretty much is the end of it. That is why the fear of God is truly the beginning of wisdom.

God bless you beloved doves,
Pablo



Michael Colunga (27 April 2011)
"Are Christians who commit suicide still saved?"

 
Hello, John and Doves,
 
God owns our salvation, lock, stock, and barrel.  We cannot unsave ourselves.
    " 'My Father, who has given [them] to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch [them] out of My Father's hand.' "  John 10:29
 
Jesus will never reject us, once we have accepted Him as LORD and Savior:
    "'All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.'"  John 6:37
 
Thus, Paul writes,
    "For this reason I also suffer these things; nevertheless I am not ashamed, for I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep what I have committed to Him until that Day."  2 Timothy 1:12
 
For it is written,
    "But the Lord is faithful, who will establish you and guard [you] from the evil one."
2 Thessalonians 3:3
 
Moreover,
    "For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life."  Romans 5:10
 
    "[Through] the LORD's mercies we are not consumed, Because His compassions fail not."  Lamentations 3:22
 
    "...being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete [it] until the day of Jesus Christ...."  Philippians 1:6
 
For this reason it is written,
    "For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."  Isaiah 9:6
 
"Everlasting" means "now and forever.  Amen and amen!
 
In HaShem [The Name],
Mike C.